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So, er.

For those of you not in the know, at least some of my bleh-ness this week has been about kittens. Not that they exist, for kittens are never bleh -- but that there's two more. (For the people rapidly doing math in their heads, yes, this means we had two female cats in heat at the same time. One not-quite-year-old male who hadn't yet been neutered, due to time, money, and general stupidity. Wackiness ensued.) Really not up to posting the long and disturbing version of events, because I'm in a better mood at the moment. Feel free to read maeyan's account.

So, this was mostly to say hi, still alive, and no, don't want to hear the spay/neuter rant, please.

Because we've heard it. We agree with it. We were stupidly sticking our heads in the sand about how much time we had left to put off getting the boy fixed, and we're aware of that. However. There's nothing we can fucking do about it now, and we aren't particularly interested in our problems serving as anybody else's catharsis so that they can feel better about the subject. Sympathize or don't with money and fear issues (which don't go away just because they were brought on by stupidity), coo over the kittens or don't. Hell, say what you want. I'm just not going to *respond* to "See, this is why you should've..." and the like. Or read past line one.

Also, of course, this is to stop people counting on their fingers when I post new kitten pictures, and there's four of them. ;-) Two boys, two girls. One of each in each set. The new ones are gray and white (the boy) and almost all gray with a tiny blaze on top of the head that could turn out to be white or orange (the girl).


2002-10-04 09:10 am (UTC) (Link) dont sound like youre in a better mood.
But if you are then I am GLAD that you are:D

No matter what,no matter kitties are good.

No response neccesary, although you made it clear you wouldnt be tempted.



2002-10-04 09:21 am (UTC) (Link) dont sound like youre in a better mood.

Actually, I am. In a better mood, not mad at you ;-) This post was partially just to warn the people (who are not you) likely to respond with things that would get me *out* of the good mood, that I'm not going to get into it with them.

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2002-10-04 09:39 am (UTC) (Link)

Kittens are fun right up until around the time when they start running around and destroying everything. Oh, and the peeing and pooping in odd places, too (mine live in the bathroom with the door closed until they are about 10 weeks old and I TRUST them out in the main house for a while. That litterbox training is critical from 4-8 weeks and people will hate you if you give them a kitten that pees on the rug).

I dunno where you live but your local shelter or rescue group can prob. give you numbers for lower-cost s/n places. In NJ we have People For Animals which does males for $35 and the state has a s/n program where if you have below a certain income you can get it done for $20 with a voucher.

Moms will come BACK into heat when the kits are about 4-6 weeks old ... and still nursing ... so don't think that you can breathe easy yet. Looks like that mom with the older batch (the dilute calico and the blue male) might be fast approaching that time. Keep Daddy nicely locked away until he's done :) Oh, and chances are, that he'll still be doing the humpty dance with them when they cycle, because now he's learned the fun. Although he'll be shooting blanks after a couple of weeks after the surgery.

Any questions gimme a shout. I've been breeding show cats for eight years now and the number of things that will make you insane, is endless.

By the way, that dilute cali is a CUTE little girl.


2002-10-04 10:03 am (UTC) (Link)

I'm taking this as not actually the spay/neuter rant, since you're providing helpful information ;-) Mom #1 only had her kittens two weeks ago, but dad is getting neutered on the next paycheck, trust me.

We'd *rather* have it done by our own vet (and probably will have the boy done there), but given the number that we actually need to take care of following that (both moms and all four kittens) we'll probably be looking at an assisted s/n place, yes.

And amen, on kittens and litter training. *That*, we've done before - it's just never been with kittens we were actually responsible for letting come into being -- they've all been strays or adopted from relatives, before.

(We've never had *males* before this year either, so spaying was something of a lower-priority issue, given that the cats are never allowed outside. Now we have two, both adopted. One of whom was neutered about as soon as he was able to be. The younger one, the ahem, culprit, was waiting on... us getting off our asses and making an appointment and not pretending that just because he still *looks* like a six month old kitten, he still operates like one.)

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2002-10-04 09:49 am (UTC) (Link)

{{{Mad Poetess}}}

I'm sorry people have been giving you grief when it sounds like you've already had enough heaped on your plate. It's hard enough to deal with the natural consequences in life without people feeling the need to pile on the guilt. Like maybe you don't feel bad enough already, let's make sure you *really* have something to feel bad about. Just in case.

I'm glad you have four healthy kittens. Looking forward to seeing pics of the new ones.


2002-10-04 09:52 am (UTC) (Link)

yeah thats what i was trying to say:D well said."Here Here!!"

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2002-10-04 10:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Nobody's really given me grief - yet. I'm just being proactively defensive. ;-)

Haven't taken any new pics (they just came home last night) - shall have to either beat the vidcam into submission, or beat my own camera into submission! (Inanimate objects with tiny, easily breakable parts loves us, they do. Really.)

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2002-10-04 10:02 am (UTC) (Link)

Kittens are always of the cute - no lectures here, because we all have times when we know the "right" thing and don't do it for various reasons. My list of same would be exceedingly long and embarrassing.

Enjoy the babies and post more pictures for us to coo over when you have a chance.


2002-10-04 01:48 pm (UTC) (Link)


Indeed they are.


2002-10-04 10:26 am (UTC) (Link)

*hugging and sympathizing and cooing over kittens*

*more hugs*

*wishing I could help*


2002-10-04 10:51 am (UTC) (Link)


kittens are being watched over by maeyan's mommy, at the moment, so they're in excellent hands.

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2002-10-04 12:12 pm (UTC) (Link)

I completely sympathize and understand why you can't always get them s/n when you want. My two are supposed to be done at the end of this month. However, that is now contigent on whether I have the money after I make sure I have the deposit and first and last month's rent I need to move on Nov 1st. You are doing what you can.

Besides, it doesn't sound like you are shirking your repsonsibilities to the kittens so why would anyone give you grief.

Can't wait to see the little ones' pics. :)


2002-10-04 02:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

Besides, it doesn't sound like you are shirking your repsonsibilities to the kittens so why would anyone give you grief.

To be fair, nobody's *said* anything. Er, this time. I'm just on that leery edge of "Look, if you yell at me about this I *will* either break down or snap back at you," where I'm expecting people to.

And pictures shall be forthcoming sometime soon. :-)

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2002-10-08 09:34 am (UTC) (Link)

:-) Thank you.

Yes, everybody's doing fine. The first set of kittens are just starting to nibble at solid food, and the second set don't quite have their eyes open yet. :)