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Bit of an Angel Thought - Fanwank Ahead


There really isn't any explanation given for why the spell went wrong, especially in that exact way. Period. They were throwing something (imho) very funny at us, that they hoped would gloss over/fuzzy tiger us past the fact that there wasn't any real reason for it to happen. Or if there was, they didn't *show* it well enough to make it obvious. And the injoke about Liam's lack of an accent was shot to hell by giving Fred the crackerspeech from that same hell. Or possibly a different one. Also, Lorne? Hi. Don't know if you noticed us in the audience; the lights were kind of bright, but WE WERE HERE LAST WEEK. Thanks.

But may I fanwank a bit? I promise I'll clean up after.

Maybe the spell was *forced* to go wrong -- because in her heart, Cordy didn't *want* to remember. Ms. Gung-Ho must know who I am right now who cares if I'm a moussaka, was a far cry from Ms. I Vant To Be Alone at the end of the episode, but some part of her surely had that memory clutched tight inside. She didn't want to *know* about the apocalypse-- whatever rough beast is slouching towards LA this week. Or, er, next week. The thing that made Lorne want to run and puke? Maybe a little denial is understandable here.

Cordy presumably still has her unknown glowly floaty Higher Power "thank god she didn't figure out enough about them to use them for evil" powers -- so maybe she affected the spell herself, unconsciously. Taking herself -- and everybody else -- back to when *she* felt safest. High school. Sophmore year -- she asks if it's a sophmore initiation prank. So, beginning of sophmore year. Before she met Buffy. When she was Queen of the School, Daddy was rich and momma was good lookin'. When there were no vampires, love spells, ghoulies, ghosties, long-leggedy beasties or apocalyses (apocolypsi?) that went bump in the night.

In that context, "Hello Salty Goodness" isn't a retread at all -- because for her, it's the first time she's ever said it. Since she said it about Angel the first time she really saw him, makes sense she'd say it again if the same emotional circumstances were recreated.

And if that was a safe time for her, wouldn't it be a safe time for her friends? Actually, it *was* a pretty safe age for Fred, Wesley, and Angel. They weren't deliriously happy, and Wes wasn't unknowing of the supernatural, but he was still (falsely) confident of his ability to deal with it, and pretty much untested. Protected. Fred was, we know, cherished by her freakishly loving parents, whom Cordy has met. Liam was chafing under his father's rules, but still pretty much ok. And the less fratboy Liam works for me, because at 15-17, he's still trying to be what his father wants of him. His whole "They want a vampire, they don't want to believe me, so fine, I'll *give* them a vampire" transition seems so reflective of his Prodigal days, that I'm willing to buy that this is the age where Liam was just about to make that decision about the drinking and the whoring that his father seemed to expect of him anyway.

Ok, Gunn, not so much with the safe, but Cordy isn't all that great, even now, at picturing people having a non-protected childhood. If nothing else, she would have projected Gunn back to a time when he was sure what the Mission was, he knew who to trust and not trust, and he still had Alonna, who was part of what kept him safe and sane and fighting. (Granted, he didn't *mention* his sister, which was annoying, but I'm willing to accept that the first thing teen!Gunn thinks when he wakes up in a swanky old hotel that's obviously out of his neighborhood, isn't 'Is Alonna ok?' No reason to think she's in any more danger than she usually is.)

That still leaves the question of why Lorne was unaffected. This gets into serious wanking territory, here: if we're saying Cordy and the Glowy Powers Of Unexplaned Mischeif were responsible/partially responsible -- she at least knew he *hated* his childhood with a passion. And her own personal experience with the place where he grew up would lead her to believe he found her own world much safer. Anybody would.

I don't really buy that last wankiest of wanks -- I tend to go for the easier though still badly explained "He's a demon from another dimension - Angel is basically humanoid and so was affected, but Lorne has vastly different physiology, so the spell didn't affect him (much)."

[/end wank]

Anyway. Homoerotic subtext! Head Boy! How hilarious is "Gee, I wonder how you got that title?" Wesley was *so* Percy Weasley.

Which of course makes me want to see a Percy story with him grown up and unshaven and all bitter and dominant.

Mmm. Going to bed now.

milady1844

2002-11-11 12:44 am (UTC) (Link)

I've got to say, plot issues aside, I laughed quite a bit at this ep. Especially at Fred asking everyone about getting weed.

When it comes to Angel, I try not to look at the plot to closely. Because I end up getting cranky at the huge plot holes or inconsistancies. While I know that by now I should be used to it, it still rankles me.

So I put this weeks episode in the "amusing, but don't think about it too hard or it'll really suck" category.

katiedack

2002-11-11 03:47 am (UTC) (Link)

When it comes to Angel, I try not to look at the plot to closely. Because I end up getting cranky at the huge plot holes or inconsistancies.

I agree. Last night's Angel made me laugh several times. I'd been spoiled for it, and I originally had issues with the missing Irish accent and teh fact that no one remember each otehr (well, Wesley, Cordy and Angel) from the past. But I put that aside and enjoyed the episode immensely.

zortified

2002-11-11 06:18 am (UTC) (Link)

I'm not writing my Harry Potter/Angel crossover. NO, I'm not. Even if Wesley's Head Boyness fits perfectly into the AU canon.

Nope.

Not until this afternoon, at least.

byrne

2002-11-11 06:42 am (UTC) (Link)

Heeeeeeee!

Chocolate?

zortified

2002-11-11 06:54 am (UTC) (Link)

You're trying to bribe me. I can tell.

Did I ever tell you about this xover? I have a couple versions of it -- but after last night's ep, I think I want to go with the post-Goblet of Fire xover option. Where [mumble cough cough] goes and [mumble cough.]

byrne

2002-11-11 06:59 am (UTC) (Link)

Er, yeah. That sounds great. ;-)

Muffun?

zortified

2002-11-11 11:20 am (UTC) (Link)

Dork. Yes.

:-)

kaytee4ever

2002-11-11 08:53 am (UTC) (Link)

bribe you? us? not at all! *hiding the choc and silly string and ice cream sundae with sprinkles behind my back*

*G* nah..not trying to bribe you - but the story idea sounds intriguing :)

kaytee4ever

2002-11-11 08:52 am (UTC) (Link)

*snerk*

djinanna

2002-11-11 07:28 am (UTC) (Link)

I liked your wanky speculation. It makes one of my problems with "Spin the Bottle" feel okay again. Thanks, MP!

(See, Joss, I really don't need huge PhD-dissertation-style explanations. I'm happy with little chew-bones scattered about. Just throw me *something* to cover the holes and I'm happy again. It would be nice if you (Joss) cleaned up your mess, but even non-canonical fannish clean-ups work for me... Which is good, cause lately they've had to.)

kaytee4ever

2002-11-11 08:56 am (UTC) (Link)

Anyway. Homoerotic subtext!

*squeeee* *bouncing* yes!!!! Wesley/Gunn slashy goodness! I've *sooo* missed that!

*bouncing happily8



Head Boy! How hilarious is "Gee, I wonder how you got that title?" Wesley was *so* Percy Weasley.

Which of course makes me want to see a Percy story with him grown up and unshaven and all bitter and dominant.

Mmm. Going to bed now.



Oooh..get back here...*tempting you with fresh-baked choc chip cookies and fresh cold milk*

wanna see you write that. *G*

And if you don't write it...then...well, if you *find* something like that, let me know!

*hugs*



mpoetess

2002-11-11 10:47 am (UTC) (Link)

*points at zortified*

She has one!

(Ok, no, not really, but it gives me time to duck and run while you're looking away!)

kaytee4ever

2002-11-11 11:03 am (UTC) (Link)

*points at zortified*
She has one!


oh?


(Ok, no, not really, but it gives me time to duck and run while you're looking away!)

*pouts* *double pouts*


Anonymous

2002-11-11 11:14 am (UTC) (Link)

Great comments..but, um....I thought the reason the spell goes wonky is because someone steps on the bottle and breaks it when they're all tripping on the first stage of the spell. Lorne even asks for the bottle later, to fix it, and Fred tells him it's smashed.

mpoetess

2002-11-11 12:05 pm (UTC) (Link)

*nod* - yeah, I got that Cordy stopped it in mid-spell -- but even before that, it was having weird effects on all of them, that it presumably shouldn't have. :)

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jcalanthe

2002-11-11 05:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

I thought that too! Tho I was thinking it was them making Wes even more dark, and reflecting now on how he agreed it was an important thing to get Cordelia her memory back and seemed sincere, probably not so.

I was also thinking it might have been a W&H ploy to further fuck with AI, but if that were the case, surely something more bad would have happened.


poisoninjest

2002-11-11 04:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

...maybe she affected the spell herself, unconsciously. Taking herself -- and everybody else -- back to when *she* felt safest. High school. Sophmore year -- she asks if it's a sophmore initiation prank. So, beginning of sophmore year. Before she met Buffy.... And if that was a safe time for her, wouldn't it be a safe time for her friends?

Dude, I feel like a moron now. That makes perfect sense, and quite possibly that's what they were going for. It certainly explains why Cordy was the one to smash the bottle, although the way that it played onscreen was that she just kind of got stoned and freaked out. If they'd made that clear I probably would have enjoyed the ep a whole lot more.

Reminds me of a conversation I had with Donna recently where she pointed out that while BtVS has had a tendency the last couple of seasons to beat us over the head with their metaphors ("magic is a drug and drugs are bad! from beneath you it devours!"), AtS often gives us a little too much credit-- we don't always catch on to what they were trying to do. Or I don't, at least. :o)

snoopypez

2002-11-11 04:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

::bounce:: Wes was SO Percy! :D I ranted and gushed about that for eons last night and.. no one cared. Heh. I even made myself an icon. I'm weird. And ooo, Percyfic with him bitter and unshaven. Nice.

Plus, I dig your speculation and wanking. ;D Although I pretty much just took it at face value. Funny = Happy!Me. I'm easy.