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Weeble? Buffy - "Lies My Parents Told Me"




Stuff:

Anya's hat! Quick, someone get that thing off her head. Can't you see it's eating her brain? And a subdued heh on the subject of "Forgiveness is human, blah blah blah" -- though having it be fratboys that she refers to Spike killing was a bit stagey, for a joke with that sort of too little too late punchline.

William's hair: bad, bad, bad. Actually, if I try to look at him as post-turning Spike? It's kind of hot. But as William? Please shoot the wig dept. Plus his hair is somehow darker now?

Also, his voice is lower, he's less nervous, and he has stubble. William? Would never have stubble. It's hot, I just... Oh, I said that already. I can actually buy that he would be less nervous and sissified around his mother, than out in public -- but it still came off as too much Spike.

Nice to see Dru back being Dru. I can't really say whether she's more "real Dru" than the First was, whether Juliet Landau was off form as First!Dru or it was done on purpose. All I can say is that I liked Dru as seen here. And how hot was baby!Spike getting it on with Dru in his mum's parlor? Wibble.

Spike's mum is great (oh, and Cecily finally has a last name: Underwood. Pah; I was holding out for Fairfax) and I think the storyline and what Spike needed to learn from it worked out for me exactly as it was supposed to. Ricean friends are undoubtedly going to have things to say about the Vampire Lestat parallels; I've read the book, but not in obssessive fannish detail -- my opinion is that of girl on the street, I guess. I see the lift/parallel, but I think it was used to its own purposes here: Stat *did* want to spend forever as his mummy's lover, I think, and she didn't mind the idea, at least for a while. Spike's mum didn't want him around once she changed -- either that, or the part of her that was still *her* pushed him to kill her and free her from what he'd turned her into. Either way, the lesson is different from Lestat's, and supports the conclusion Spike comes to -- that his mother did love him more than anything else. and that a Slayer never will.

I was intrigued by his answer for Wood -- that the Slayer is all about the Mission, and, esentially, Nikki knew what she was getting into, and she's the one who left him an orphan. But here's where we get into my need for a "confuzzled" mood (Yeah, they have it at Journalfen, but I want it heeeeeeere).

So:

Wood had his reasons, which were about as straightforward as possible. Giles' reasons, though (if we're to believe this is Giles and we're not still being played for some sort of "Look, he's not touching anything -- psych!" fool) are allegedly all about... the Mission. Even though I've not been happy with Giles-if-he's-really-Giles so far this season, I can buy his Be a General speech. I can accept that his motivations are pure simply because Giles doesn't have any other potential motivations to want to hurt Spike. So, Spike has to be taken out, for their safety, to save the world.

Buffy? She says she'd let Dawn die, if she had it to do over again. This show hasn't shown me any kind of change in Buffy's worldview that supports such a statement, since the end of Season 5, but, um, ok. The fanwankiest I can get on that subject is that now she knows there's a heaven, so dying isn't the be-all-end-all for humans. Let's go with it, though. Let's say Buffy would let Dawn die. Let's say she understands about being a General. Let's say she's legitimately mad at Wood not because he tried to kill someone she has disturbingly complex feelings for, but simply because they need Spike, and Wood was letting his vendetta be more important than... the Mission.

In that case, why is Buffy mad at Giles? So quietly, bitterly mad at Giles.

Best guesses -- a) he's right in spirit, though wrong in tactics, and she hates him for his part in turning her into someone who could be All About the Mission. b) he's right in spirit, but he undercut her; he didn't let her make the tactical decisions. I could see that as a legit reason to be angry with him, but that doesn't really seem to fit with "I think I've learned everything I need to from you." She's bitter there. c) he's wrong in spirit -- because Buffy has some internal definition of the Mission that we haven't seen her hash out, that basically says "We kill potentially good people only as a last resort, and this isn't one and you should've known that." d) ? Buffy's a hypocrite, as are they all, which we all knew?

Overall, me likee. I'm just confuzzled as to what I was supposed to take away, regarding Buffy's position at the end of the episode, and Giles'.


backfromspace

2003-03-25 07:36 pm (UTC) (Link)

I think Giles is sublimating his own feelings of uselessness and struggling to find a way to be helpful - or at least noticed. He wasn't thinking clearly when he worked out the deal with Wood because he's feeling old and washed-out and pointless and he wants to do something that Buffy will talk to him about, or at least something he can feel angsty and like he Did the Right Thing about. He also remembers how killing Ben was necessary and no one ever called him on it, so he's probably confusing that for agreement and slipping a little farther into his newfound psychosis. It's depressing, really. Poor Giles.

mpoetess

2003-03-26 05:38 am (UTC) (Link)

He wasn't thinking clearly when he worked out the deal with Wood because he's feeling old and washed-out and pointless and he wants to do something that Buffy will talk to him about, or at least something he can feel angsty and like he Did the Right Thing about.

I could buy that.

so he's probably confusing that for agreement and slipping a little farther into his newfound psychosis. It's depressing, really. Poor Giles.


I don't think anybody *knows* he killed Ben, though. (Tongue in cheek answer addressed seriously; I must be shunned!) They were actually going to have Giles reveal that to Buffy in this ep, then they cut it from the script. I have to assume that means that so far, the've been operating on the principal that Buffy and probably everybody else, doesn't know.

I've got a theory that doesn't involve dancing demons, but it's spoiler-based, and god knows if anything will come of it.

backfromspace

2003-03-26 08:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

I don't think anybody *knows* he killed Ben, though.

I'm operating under that assumption. No one needs to know about it, the central thing is that he can feel that he Contributed in some big meaningful way that Buffy just couldn't have done herself.

(Tongue in cheek answer addressed seriously; I must be shunned!)

:P <--tongue out of cheek.

They were actually going to have Giles reveal that to Buffy in this ep, then they cut it from the script.

I blame Marti Noxon someone else.

I've got a theory that doesn't involve dancing demons, but it's spoiler-based, and god knows if anything will come of it.

I'm very spoiled, I love theories, and the dancing demon is my sekrit demon lover. So sekrit, in fact, he doesn't know about it yet.

Cuz I know how he feels. girl.
Yes I know how he feels, girl.