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Nap Now!
Mmm, I love local election days. About which I give a flying rat's arse. But we get them off work! Nap!

anniesj

2003-05-06 10:07 am (UTC) (Link)

I so cannot believe you're not going to go to the polls and vote for me. I mean, what the fuck? I gave all my time and effort campaigning so I could better serve your community, and instead, you nap? What if I don't win? What if I lose? And what if your vote could've made me Official Cheese-Baller of the World?

Every vote counts, you know. Every vote.

mpoetess

2003-05-06 12:01 pm (UTC) (Link)

But instead, I'm home napping for you. You, personally, Annie Sewell Jennings. While you're stuck at work, I'm sending all the precious nap-energy I can generate!

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anniesj

2003-05-06 12:16 pm (UTC) (Link)

You are forgiven for your nap. Nap harder! I need nap-energy!

::naps vicariously through you::

kaytee4ever

2003-05-06 10:28 am (UTC) (Link)

yay! :)

*hugs*

mpoetess

2003-05-06 12:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

.....zzzzzzz.....

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kaytee4ever

2003-05-06 12:05 pm (UTC) (Link)

awww.

*grins* oh! keep meaning to ask you. *wicked grin*

Did you get the sly poiler I gave you before you went to see X2 the other night?

*G*

mpoetess

2003-05-06 12:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

About Kitty? Yeah. Well I figured you meant she'd feature somewhere, and she sort of had a big part, totally offscreen. (In addition to her few moments onscreen.)

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kaytee4ever

2003-05-06 12:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

No, about Jean and the ending. ;)

mpoetess

2003-05-06 12:52 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh! No, I didn't pick it up when we were talking, but I was already spoiled for that part, by Wolfling, so anything I already knew probably went straight past my brain without me thinking of it as a spoiler.

Actually, though I love that they're probably going that way with the next movie, because I love that storyline, I think it was probably the least sense-making part of the film. (highlight for spoilers) Because they didn't manage to set up a situation where there were no other possible solutions, which was the whole reason the comics version worked. Or at least in the movie, they didn't do a good enough job exlpaining *why* there were no other solutions.

It seemed like Jean acted fairly irrationally, since we weren't let in on her thought-processes, or why she couldn't have done X, Y, or enlisted Bobby and Storm's help in doing Z. They had a weather manipulator and someone who could *freeze* water, right there in the jet. Yet Jean didn't ask for help from either, and there wasn't enough setup in the movie to imply that she had any reasons for not acting like a team player; she's not Wolverine. They also didn't make any kind of case for why Jean couldn't use her TK powers to help lift the frigging jet, from inside, instead of getting out and holding off the water.

I can come *up* with reasons: she didn't ask for help because she thought the leak was her fault in the first place , from the fight with Scott where she threw him against the wall. She didn't ask for help because she was afraid of the way her powers were growing, as hinted at the beginning of the movie. But it's not like they then went out of control at a scary moment during the plot, which might make her think destroying herself was the safest thing to do. She somehow "knew" that she couldn't lift the plane, but could hold off a flood.

None of those reasons is really a) strong enough to make me buy it without shaking my head, and b) present enough in the movie to support what they eneded up having Jean do -- when a character acts in a major way, and the viweer has to work to think up reasons why, the scriptwriters haven't done their job.



But I liked it anyway -- there was too much fun and squee for me to be disappointed by a bit of questionable plotting in order to set up the next film.

kaytee4ever

2003-05-06 01:16 pm (UTC) (Link)

anything I already knew probably went straight past my brain without me thinking of it as a spoiler.

ah ;)


Actually, though I love that they're probably going that way with the next movie, because I love that storyline, I think it was probably the least sense-making part of the film.

Exactly!

*highlight for my response*



Because they didn't manage to set up a situation where there were no other possible solutions, which was the whole reason the comics version worked. Or at least in the movie, they didn't do a good enough job exlpaining *why* there were no other solutions.

EXACTLY. God. You should have heard me in the theater and all the way home "why didn't she do it from inside the jet??!". That's when my sis told me briefly about Phoenix.


It seemed like Jean acted fairly irrationally, since we weren't let in on her thought-processes

They also didn't make any kind of case for why Jean couldn't use her TK powers to help lift the frigging jet, from inside, instead of getting out and holding off the water.


Very true. It's like the story is going down a road, steadily, and suddenly it *veers off* the road, into the dirt. Did not make sense. Not without more data.


I can come *up* with reasons

Oh, sure, like, perhaps she was fearing losing control. If so, they could've easily put in a few more moments of her doubting herself, even hesitating or having problems using her powers.

Oh, and just have to mention: good use of her powers? when she caught nightcrawler in mid-air "he's not going anywhere". *grins* loved that moment.


when a character acts in a major way, and the viweer has to work to think up reasons why, the scriptwriters haven't done their job.

Yes, another major point that drove me crazy. the "unfinished" feeling to that plot point, when the rest of the movie is so good.

Characters stayed true to themselves, and motivations were shown consistently (Magneto, for instance, didn't suddenly decide he wanted all the money in the world; he maintained his stance on non-mutants, which is, "either they accept us or they get out of our way", and acted accordingly when the opportunity arose - using Jason to give the 'kill all the non-mutants' command to professor X)






But I liked it anyway -- there was too much fun and squee for me to be disappointed by a bit of questionable plotting in order to set up the next film.

*G* me too

onetwomany

2003-05-06 01:54 pm (UTC) (Link)

Hee. I drove through some Pennsylvanian County in the midst of election time a fortnight ago. It was hilarious -there were so many signs and ads I was wondering whether half the population was running for something. I snapped an amazing photo of a grassy knoll at a major intersection, totally obscured by dozens of placards.

I love American democracy. It cracks me up. And it's kinda cool how you guys get to elect people for just about everything.

mpoetess

2003-05-06 02:09 pm (UTC) (Link)

It gets a bit much, yeah!

We've only had one yard sign, ever -- it wasn't an election one so much as a local issue thing -- "Save School 54" which is a historic building at the end of our street that they're planning on tearing down instead of restoring. The sign lasted all of one day in the front yard -- when we got home from work it had either blown away or someone had stolen it.