September 26th, 2002

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BtVS Spoilery goodies (from "Lessons")

Home again, obviously. More on that score later. (One of the kittens died, shortly after I got home -- so while I'm happy to be safe on the ground, home in own bed, etc., it's not without mixed emotions.) Fannish stuff now, though, because I can.

Two soundbites, for my slashy, kinky friends. The one where the guy says the thing about you know, and the one where the other guy says the other thing about you know.

And screencaps of the Hair.

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Fannish Thing 2: Manchild

Mostly for zortified and wolfling though I expect Giles/ASH fans in general would appreciate. 2 soundclips and 39 ASH screencaps from Manchild, eps 1, 2, and 4, in no partcular order.

Obviously spoilery if you haven't seen any of the series. (This would be the BBC programme ASH has been working on during the last year.)

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Wanda (of E! Online) interviewed Marti Noxon on the 20th, when I was conveniently out of town so no one had to hear me bitching. The bit that confuses me isn't spoilery at all:

kari from Minneapolis: "Dead Things" was great, but I'm shocked that Buffy never apologized for abusing Spike. Why?

Marti: I think the nature of their relationship was violent in turns. He'd do a bad thing, she'd do another bad thing...So nobody owes anyone big apologies.

Er? Ok, personal opinion, the fact that two people treated each other equally like crap doesn't mean no apologies are owed - it means equally big apologies are owed, unless they both consciously waive the need for such. But anyway.

What confuses me is-- this is Marti saying this, right? Bad boyfriend, there's no coming back from this, etc etc, Marti? Does she *realize* that comment logically extends to Seeing Red unless she says something to qualify why it shouldn't? Which she hasn't?

I'm not dancing around going "See, Marti's excused him, he doesn't have to apologize, and if he did, it would be something he *could* apologize for, because Marti said so... neener neener. This must mean Spike wasn't over the line, and anybody who sympathized with him is vindicated." Far from it. Mutual apologies are owed, and his is the bigger one by far - but Buffy doesn't get out of admitting that she behaved wrongly, just because he dealt the last and dirtiest blow.

I'm just... I can't tell whether Marti's backtracking because of the fan support for Spike, whether she's trying to sweep any thought of responsibility on Buffy's part (for the relationship, not the assault) out the window...

I just think, what an odd statement to make, after all the furore. I don't understand what she intends by it.
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