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Flamewar In a Box!
TM thebratqueen

The original comment, out of context of the kerfluffle that generated it, was: "...Flame War In A Box [tm] where I'm reasonably certain everyone could have walked away from their keyboards at some point and the posts would have generated themselves."

mpoetess:Ahhahahahahahaha... Someone needs to write a script that will do this. Surely we can turn two MegaHAL's loose on each other or something, after filling them with the contents of the last two months worth of flamewars, and see if they don't just keep yelling at each other forever...

thebratqueen: At which point the spectators could all place bets on how long it would take for Godwin's and Snacky's Laws to come into play.

mpoetess: willnotbebadwillnotbebadwillnotbebad... willatleastanswerallrpgtagsfirst...



MadPoetess Labs Presents

Three identical MegaHAL programs (conversation simulators that ape artificial intelligence with varying degrees of success) have been fed identical large (and I do mean *large*) chunks of the public text from some of the biggest Jossverse kerf(l)uffles of the past few months, as part of their language/brain files, in addition to the very rudimentary lexicon that comes with the program.

This includes: the RPS Smackdown Kerfuffle from late July, the Trendy Slash Kerfuffle, the RPS RPG Kerfuffle that spawned the Handbasket, the Why Do Straight Women Write Slash Kerfuffle, and the Anti-Slash Icons Kerfuffle. As well as a few single flamey/wanky phrases ("Bitch, please!"), for added fun. If you see yourself taken out of context, well, *yes*. That's what this program does. That's the point. That's the fun. There's no inherent meaning, and 98% of the text was entered in huge cut-n-paste swathes down an entire thread of comments.

This does not include the posts that actually generated the idea, since that issue seems to have been resolved between the parties, some of the related posts are locked, and I'm too bloody lazy to uncollapse any more public threads to add the text. Ditto on the WIPs mini-kerfuffle. Possibly the Hals will learn about those things later, if I'm feeling more energetic. As it is, believe me, there's a huge language base to work from already.

So. Please meet three new Buffy/Angel fandom participants:

Bitchy and Flamey, who speak only to each other -- and Asshat, who answers questions (or responds to provocative statements!) from You, The Audience!

Bitchy and Flamey need a human go-between, for alas I lack the programming skills to make them speak directly to each other, so there is much cutting and pasting into each interface. However the only human intervention happens at session open (in choosing which greeting to respond to), at session close (which usually happens when I mis-paste something, can't fix it, and have to declare the conversation over) and during editing to fix minor typos and screwed up text.

Transcript for 9/4/2003, 7:00 PM.

Sadly polite, weren't they! I swear there's a number of happy flamey words in there. They mostly just seemed to avoid them.

So -- questions or flamebait for Asshat? Her human go-between is now open for business.

jslayeruk

2003-09-04 06:24 pm (UTC) (Link)

*gears up for entertainment*

*encounters HTTP404*

*cries*

mpoetess

2003-09-04 06:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

It's fixed now. Should be.

(no subject) - jslayeruk, 2003-09-04 06:32 pm (UTC) (Expand)

mishamcm

2003-09-04 06:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

Slight typo in the link, but I found it manually. They are awfully polite, aren't they?

mpoetess

2003-09-04 06:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

Yeah, for the level of bitterness that sometimes comes up in the live posts, they've been avoiding the 'infestation" and fuck you" comments that, I swear, are actually in the lexicon.

(no subject) - xanphibian, 2003-09-04 08:20 pm (UTC) (Expand)

swmbo

2003-09-04 06:30 pm (UTC) (Link)


Oh my lord, how beautiful! "We have your flame war, so you don't have to!"

I love it *hugs*

mpoetess

2003-09-04 07:12 pm (UTC) (Link)

Yes, but they're far too civil. *kicks them*

Maybe I should go troll Asshat and bait her into saying something mean.

xanphibian

2003-09-04 07:14 pm (UTC) (Link)

Very cool. But I'm confused, is slash in the closet or in the trash?

Bring on the woman!

mpoetess

2003-09-04 08:12 pm (UTC) (Link)

Bring on the woman!

Every so often it comes up with a good one-liner. I'm just sad because sometimes I'm not sure if it's a real one-liner or if someone actually said that.

I think slash is uncomfortable with being in the closet!

thebratqueen

2003-09-04 07:22 pm (UTC) (Link)

You scare me and I love you, all at the same time. [smooch]

mpoetess

2003-09-04 08:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

Which is as it should be! [back atcha]

(Deleted comment)

Re: yay!

mpoetess

2003-09-05 06:44 am (UTC) (Link)

Would that be femslash? RPS? Illegal in 48 states?

Woohoo - let's do it. Bring on the woman!

telesilla

2003-09-04 09:51 pm (UTC) (Link)

As soon as I stopped laughing my ass off and wiped the Coke off my monitor, I asked a friend to commemorate this in an icon!

Thanks for bringing the funny!!

mpoetess

2003-09-05 06:36 am (UTC) (Link)

Hee! Both Bitchy and Flamey are obviously baby!femslashers (note that original typo said fenslashers, which I suppose would be handbasket_rpg) in the making.

That's a womderful icon!

(no subject) - mpoetess, 2003-09-05 06:37 am (UTC) (Expand)

minitrog

2003-09-05 04:19 am (UTC) (Link)

You did it! 'S wonderful.

Far less stressful that reading the originals, and yet contains all the subtle brain-mashed fuckeduppery that made these kerfuffles the insanity we treasure today...

I hear the real people in the closet.

Ok, that's just unnerving. Lettem out MP, Lettem out! *g*

mpoetess

2003-09-05 06:41 am (UTC) (Link)

But... but they might be straight people! And that would be defaming them if I brought them out of the closet!

(Deleted comment)

mpoetess

2003-09-05 08:04 am (UTC) (Link)

It's like reading a not!Seth/not!Dave conversation.

Don't make me make notseth and notdave bots.


The straight people in the closet scare me.

I know! It's like The People Under The Stairs!

"I hear straight people in the walls, mommy!"

(no subject) - mpoetess, 2003-09-05 08:06 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - not_kelly, 2003-09-05 08:08 am (UTC) (Expand)

stakebait

2003-09-05 10:05 am (UTC) (Link)

Bwah! I love you! Spike/Xander is a carnivorous animal!

Mer

mpoetess

2003-09-05 10:37 am (UTC) (Link)

*g*

The "carnivorous animal" actually came from the program's original lexicon -- under Encyclopedic information: Nature. "The cat is a carnivorous animal."

BTW... may virtual_asshat play in Handbasket? Or do you think there's potential for people to complain about their [eta -- original kerfuffle-related] comments being part of its spindled, folded, and mutilated language file?

(no subject) - stakebait, 2003-09-05 11:05 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - mpoetess, 2003-09-05 11:15 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - mpoetess, 2003-09-05 11:18 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - stakebait, 2003-09-05 11:54 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - mpoetess, 2003-09-05 03:47 pm (UTC) (Expand)

_swallow

2005-08-19 02:26 am (UTC) (Link)

So, I'm just seeing this now. ... AHAHAHAHHHA, ::wipes brow::. Hee. Thanks for sharing this.

mpoetess

2005-08-19 02:02 pm (UTC) (Link)

I so need to go through the last year or so worth of flamewars and add them into the HAL-brain. So many more fun fandom buzzwords it could learn now...