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Ah, Real Life

From which we hide our petty fandom squabbles in shame and ignominy.

From a certain professional listserv I'm subscribed to:

Can't the members of this group have a discussion, of any type, without calling each other names and slinging sarcastic remarks? Some of you are just unbelievably rude.

I mean, seriously, don't you have enough work to do?

delete, delete, delete

(Though to be fair, the list isn't nearly as wanky as most fandom lists. The people on it just live sheltered lives, so when someone does get flamey or stupid, it attracts undue attention.)

(no subject) - gwendolen, 2003-09-18 02:30 pm (UTC) (Expand)


2003-09-18 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

This particular pro list even comes with a resident... I hate to call him a troll -- he's more of a harmless but annoying nutter. Who posts random articles with little or no explanation as to why the list should find them useful or interesting, and incomprehensible -- but polite! -- rants about how a particular public library is trying to keep (unspecified) information from its patrons. He seldom if ever says anything directed to the actual listmembers, and I suspect his posts are crossposted to as many information-profession lists as he can find. And no one will tell him to bugger off, because we're all so professional and he's so harmless...


(no subject) - gwendolen, 2003-09-18 03:17 pm (UTC) (Expand)


2003-09-18 04:53 pm (UTC) (Link)

I'm not sure there actually is a moderator, oddly enough. :) At least I don't think I've ever seen anyone step in to make a modly type post.

But no, the guy knows he's essentially spamming; he's been doing it for years. There's even a website dedicated to the trail of bizarre conspiracy theory posts he's left across mailing lists and usenet. It's a very funny read.


2003-09-18 03:13 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh, the irony.


2003-09-18 04:53 pm (UTC) (Link)



2003-09-18 06:20 pm (UTC) (Link)

I hear that.

I'm on a professional mailing list, and it amazes me how easily people get worked up. It's like people don't know how to scroll or not respond to things.

Fandom is better about that, at least the well-lit halls where I hang out.


2003-09-19 07:13 am (UTC) (Link)

Fandom has mostly been there done that for the last oogly-moogly number of years. Doesn't mean it doesn't get wanky -- just that the pattern is so old, people who actually want to avoid it have a pretty good shot at doing it!

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Re: A Birth Announcement


2003-09-22 07:52 am (UTC) (Link)

Huzzzah! Does that make us... um. Godparents? Ungodlyparents?



2003-09-19 11:50 pm (UTC) (Link)

All I want to do is make my journal line up on the right hand side of the screen. (I'd like use generator and have the comments at the bottom of the entry, but I don't need that) I cannot, for the life of me, figure this out. Could you help me or point me to someone/someplace that can?

Re: Help


2003-09-22 07:49 am (UTC) (Link)

I can point! There's a community called ljdesigners where the folks can help with style tweaking, from little things to big things. (You need to join the community to post in it, but I'd recommend checking out the actual journal first, because they give posting rules and such.)

Re: Help


2003-09-22 10:41 am (UTC) (Link)

Ahh! Thank you, I love you, you're a goddess!


2003-09-24 04:38 am (UTC) (Link)

That sounds like one of the professional lists I am subscribed to. I'm especially fascinated by the list mod, who usually only turns up after several people have asked for somebody to stop the current flamewars and never ending feuds, and then basically only says no, he doesn't think he should do anything. I'm starting to wonder if he is just so thick-skinned that he doesn't understand that people get insulted by insults, or if he is enjoying the kerfluffles..


2003-09-24 07:14 am (UTC) (Link)

If it's a library-related list, I wonder if it's that some people in the information profession can be so concerned with censorship and free speech issues that they forget that in some situations, it's ok to say "Shut the hell up, or at least try to play nicely with others." Like... when you own the list...