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Things not to do to amuse yourself when your 13 mb upload is at 40% on dialup


Note to self: When TBQ can't brave the TWOP boards anymore, what the hell makes you think you can? Especially the Angel forum.1 At least I wasn't masochistic enough to actually read the recap.

Note to world: I would go to hell if I made t-shirts on Cafe Press that said, respectively, "Shut up, Glark," and "Shut up, Strega" wouldn't I?2 Yeah, thought so. Uh. Spike-partisan? Moi? Though I think I'd be equally annoyed if they said "Shut up, Wesley." I'm trying to come to emotional terms with the fact that I'd probably buy a "Shut up, Eve, and then die painfully, unless you're Lilah in disguise" t-shirt, though.

How about a cheap stick-figure not-remotely-Tubey on a t-shirt that says "We snark because we want you to hate your favorite tv shows as much as we do."

That said, I quite liked the most recent review of Sex & the City. Why, you ask? Because despite not having HBO or ever having seen a single episode, I was convinced by the writing that 1) The reviewer actually liked the show, and 2) I might actually like it too, if I got the chance to watch. And yet the recap was still bitchy and amusing, just like as far as I can tell the Buffy and Angel recaps never were TWOP is theoretically supposed to be.


ex_dovil323

2004-02-07 11:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

My alzheimers is showing as I can't remember whose lj it was in, but there was a discussion just recently about it. I was amazed at the number of disgruntled ex-TWOP readers because I thought I was about the only one who didn't like how bitter and negative the reviews were for Buffy and Angel.

Considering there is obviously no affection or interest for the show I wonder why they bother submitting themselves to what must be a very painful 45 minutes of television for them. Maybe they just like to suffer for their 'art'. Wankers.

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mpoetess

2004-02-08 12:02 am (UTC) (Link)

T'was the aforementioned TBQ's lj that the discussion occurred in.

To be fair and balanced (TM FOX News, of course), I only ever visited TWOP even in its heyday for 1) the allegedly amusing commentary in the Buffy recaps, and since it annoyed me from the get-go, returning was pretty much an act of masochism/schadenfreude 2) lurking in the fanfiction threads on the Buffy forum, now deceased, and 3) catching up on other people's flamewars in the Smallville forum.

So it's not as if I have much of a call to complain personally about having lost the grandness that was Mighty Big TV Of Old --- I was always a lurker, and (bar the fanfic threads) always tended to hit TWOP when I felt like being righteously pissed off.

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ex_dovil323

2004-02-08 12:11 am (UTC) (Link)

I think the big difference between then and now in the Angel forums is that the pendulum has swung whereby the majority of people that go to post there don't seem to like the show. Which begs the question why do they spend an hour each week watching it. But that's a whole other can of worms.

And nothing wrong with complaining. I mean, are you going to let them have all the fun?

janedavitt

2004-02-08 05:11 am (UTC) (Link)

It started in mine and TBQ took the flag from my faltering hands and raised it high ;-)

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mpoetess

2004-02-08 10:25 am (UTC) (Link)

Ah -- *my* alzheimers must be showing!

janedavitt

2004-02-08 10:35 am (UTC) (Link)

I doubt that ;-) I was taken aback by the response actually. Knew some people were annoyed at TWoP; didn't realise how many. Ironically, the last review was fairly innocuous by comparison.

miggy

2004-02-07 11:44 pm (UTC) (Link)

Hey, I spent hours drawing the adorable-as-fuck little Idol heads for the thank-you banner for Shack, only to watch him turn into a raging ass over the course of the season. *sniff* My poor little cartoon Idol heads.

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mpoetess

2004-02-08 12:08 am (UTC) (Link)

I will say that one of my favorite TWOP experiences was the Banner War between the Kitten Board and er. Everyone Else. *That* was amusing. Perhaps tellingly, though, the instigators were forumites, and not TWOP staff, as far as I can recall.

ETA: which ain't to say the staff are across the board not funny, or bitter, or jerkfaced, or anything people end up bitching about. It's just a sort of prevailing miasma of blech, for me.

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miggy

2004-02-08 12:11 am (UTC) (Link)

I was really into the text war ads: Why My Show Beats Your Show #1, and so on. I bought the two ads for The Amazing Race. Even remember the copy.

Why TAR Beats BtVS #1: We dump our self-absorbed blondes in the mud.

Why TAR Beats SVille #1: Our guys actually did it with their best friend.

Miss Alli just about died on the second one. She's fantastic, Miss Alli is. Hilariously funny and a wonderfully even-handed mod. Too bad they don't have more like her.

I had a lot of time invested in the site -- I was up to something like 1800 posts -- so it was a pretty depressing day when I realized that not only had I not checked the forums that day, but that I really didn't want to.

Can I just second the Miss Alli love

kuzibah

2004-02-09 06:18 am (UTC) (Link)

Someone on TBQ's lj favorably mentioned the Sports Night re-caps and I was pleased to see Miss Alli did those, too. She comes right out and says she loves TAR, and even when she snarks, she's a big booster of the show. Unfortunately, she seems to be the only one.

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miggy

2004-02-08 12:16 am (UTC) (Link)

Oh, and you would only go to hell if the shirts used the monkey (seriously).

(Yeah, I flipped it. Thbpbpbpbpbpt. I raspberry at anyone who cares.)

estepheia

2004-02-08 05:23 am (UTC) (Link)

I sometimes look at the fanfic thread. Sometimes the recs are interesting. Otherwise I have no interest reading anything at TWOP. I can't stand people who try to ruin other people's fun.

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mpoetess

2004-02-08 10:47 am (UTC) (Link)

*Where* is the fanfic thread, is what I want to know. I was under the impression that Angel didn't have one, as it's not readily apparent - and the Buffy forum is gone gone gone.

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estepheia

2004-02-08 10:57 am (UTC) (Link)

I haven't found one in the Angel section either, but Buffy retains a small section in SciFi and other Shows...
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showforum=599
And they still have one fanfic thread.

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mpoetess

2004-02-08 11:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Ah -- cool; I didn't know there was a Buffy area remaining. Thanks!

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estepheia

2004-02-08 11:18 am (UTC) (Link)

Heee. We aim to please. :-)

a2zmom

2004-02-08 11:33 am (UTC) (Link)

I can't remember the last recap I read at TWoP, the Angel ones have always bugged the crap out of me.

That said, I still find a lot of excellent insight and analysis over at the forums. Are there a lot of people whose total commentary is "Die, Spike, die" (or conversely, "Die, Angel, die) - well, yes, but I skip those. There are a lot of people who have given me a lot to think about, spoiler free and I appreciate that.


roquelaure

2004-02-09 08:44 am (UTC) (Link)

The commentary for Damage wasn't so bad, actually. But on the whole, I agree with you. Also, the "Spicule" joke is very stale. I wish she'd drop it. Considering she still calls Lorne "Cary," I'm not holding out much hope that she will.

All that said, the American Idol recaps still make me giggle. :)