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Viddery Question



I'm being driven rapidly out of my mind by my new tv/graphics card, which has both input and output ability to connect a tv or vcr to the pc.

Input (from a stereo VCR via a standard coax cable) is fine and dandy; I can capture source from VHS tapes til the cows come home, just as I could before with my input-only card. Not that I need to for the most part, as my Buffy source is now almost all downloaded or ripped from DVD, but it's nice to have the ability.

Output, however, which is what I need for the purposes of transferring mine and wolfling's vids from digital to VHS for the Connexions vidshow, is a no-go. I'm at a loss to figure out why, and the ATI help files and docs are less than helpful, not that I haven't been through them from cover to cover anyway.

It's an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 Pro, and the card is connected via composite cable to the vcr's video input; sound card connected to the vcr's stereo input. The "play to tv" function is enabled in my display settings. VCR is set on channel 3. I've tried recording with the VCR set on TV, and with it set on VCR, and either way I get no sound, no picture, on playback.

I've been through the message archive at [nummy_treat] and am scrolling through same on the [vidder] list, but haven't come across any detailed technical discussions of transferring from digital to analog yet. The thought of posting any sort of technical question to either list right now gives me hives, frankly, though that's my next stop, I suppose, if my solo research comes up empty.

I thought I'd throw it out to the lj-circuit first, though. Anybody have the same card, or something similar enough that they recognise what's up? A setting I didn't know I needed to change, or... ?



ETA: problem solved, thanks to the tag-team of jadelennox and temvald!


is the problem the card output or the vcr input?

temvald

2004-02-21 07:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

i'd think that if you were going to your vcr using one of the composite inputs, then you'd want your vcr on channel LINE1 or LINE2, wouldn't you?

might not be a bad idea to, say, output your dvd player via the same composite cables to your vcr and make sure all of that is hooked up correctly first. then you can rule out the problem being that connection, and know the problem is actually with the card's output feature. ...or, if you can't get your dvd player to show up on your vcr either, then you know that you need to get your input to vcr problems worked out first, then worry about the card itself.

-temvald, on referral from jadelennox

Re: is the problem the card output or the vcr input?

mpoetess

2004-02-21 09:12 pm (UTC) (Link)

I adore you. It's Line 1. Which I did not know existed (or rather, I had seen it mentioned in another context but didn't realize it was right there on my channel lineup if I persevered past 103), and certainly isn't mentioned in the docs for the card. Muchas gracias!

(I'm staring at my tv viewer showing an ever decreasing telescopic view of my desktop right now. It's eerie and beautiful!)

Re: is the problem the card output or the vcr input?

temvald

2004-02-21 10:29 pm (UTC) (Link)

glad i could help. :)

...and, by the way, i also had no idea what line1 and line2 were for until i hooked up our dvd player the first time.

Re: is the problem the card output or the vcr input?

mpoetess

2004-02-21 10:46 pm (UTC) (Link)

Our DVD player was hooked directly into the tv until quite recently, and now is fed into a switchbox arrangement along with the vcr and cable, so I never even stumbled across it that way, sadly. (I'm incredibly glad that switching the vcr to Line1 worked, too, because me unhooking the DVD player from said apparatus downstairs and bringing it upstairs to test with my office vcr would have sent my roomie, who hooked up the whole switchbox thing, into apoplectic fits.)

chicken_cem

2004-02-22 09:52 pm (UTC) (Link)

And until a few days ago, I was too stupid to even figure out how to convert .VOB files to .MOV files so that I could edit my vids with iMovie. You are lucky to have suck advanced, experienced-user type problems.

How much does one of those tv/graphics cards cost, anyway? Sounds very handy.

I adore your Rockridge vid. I watch it at least once a day, and never stop lauging. Mel Brooks would so appreciate that.

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mpoetess

2004-02-22 10:09 pm (UTC) (Link)

even figure out how to convert .VOB files to .MOV files so that I could edit my vids with iMovie

I'll just be over here with my pc, not going through the zillion extra steps it seems to take on a mac! My sympathies.

How much does one of those tv/graphics cards cost, anyway? Sounds very handy.


My old one, which just accepted tv input but did not send output *from* the computer, cost about 30 - 50 bucks, I think. Dunno what an analogous one for mac would cost.

The 'new' one I actually bought used on EBay for 50$ -- brand new, I think they're something like 100$ to 150$.

adore your Rockridge vid.

Aww - thank you! I had so much fun making it (and frustration, and education, god knows) that it makes me squee like a dork to hear that people who don't live in my head think it's funny!

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chicken_cem

2004-02-23 05:17 am (UTC) (Link)


I'll just be over here with my pc, not going through the zillion extra steps it seems to take on a mac! My sympathies.


Actually, it cost $25 for the software, but it only takes one step now!!

Of course, decrypting the encrypted VOB files off the DVD is the precursor step, but that is very easy, and I imagine everyone has to go through that step becasuse, well, most DVDs are encrypted.

Thansk for the info. on the tv/graphics card.