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Late-breaking Angel babble


So, finally got to watch the episode, thanks to the kindness of seekrit download benefactrix.

Anticlimactic on the "Yes, Angel did decide not to save her" front. Luckily for my wounded pride in textual interpretation of the previous episode, I no longer care. ;-) Which is to say, I never did have a problem with Angel making that decision, I just hated the thought that I missed the implication that it had already happened. When my biggest complaint in the Jossverse in the last year or so has been lack of subtlety (in dialogue, in humor, in message), it rather burned me that I'd missed what on re-evaluation is the sort of scene I've been regretting the lack of in these troubled times. ;-)

Illyria looks blind; it's the effect of her alien pupils, but it's a very good dranatic effect - she's constantly peering at the world, very obviously not seeing what we see.

Amy Acker rocks.

As someone who did like Fred, and at the same time fully believes she was the character-destroying Mary Sue From Hell, I miss her hard. Won't miss people's OOC reactions to her, but I'll miss her.

Wes makes my heart hurt.

Speculative thought: though I'm as spoiled as it's possible to get, this particular thought is more finale-bound, and past the reach of any of the spoilers out there:

Last word in this episode, if we count the musical montage? Home.

Episode that brought them to Wolfram and Hart, and, in some ways of looking at it, got Fred killed? Home.

Episode whose events, if "You can't be saved by a lie" is a true statement, will come undone by the time the series ends? Home.

Episode whose events, if Angel's wish for Connor changed the world in significant ways, and not just people's memories, might actually reverse or at least alter everything that's happened this season, including Fred's death, if its events literally are undone? Home. 1


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1 I'm not saying I necessarily believe that will happen. Fred may be dead forever. I'm almost positive Cordy is. I'm just saying, if anything is going to bring the "Can't be saved by a lie" lesson home to Angel, it might be (as multiple others have specced - can I just credit TBQ and Jennyo and call it a day?) having to take back what he gave to Connor. Having to trade a true death for his son, for the undoing of whatever presumably terrible, bigger-than-Illyria thing will happen before the season is over. If that were to happen, I could buy Fred's death being undone -- the weight of the choice would make it dramatically earned, for me. Angel can't trade 1000 innocent lives for Fred's -- but could he trade Connor's? What about for Fred and several not-yet-dead players to be named later, if we end up with an old-style Blake's 7 / Forever Knight cast massacre?

lumenara

2004-03-04 10:07 am (UTC) (Link)

You rock.

mpoetess

2004-03-04 11:23 am (UTC) (Link)

Or possibly I'm stoned. ;-)

xanphibian

2004-03-04 11:45 am (UTC) (Link)

Oh my GOD! Your spec is making me cry! Stop it stop it!!

*hides and rocks self*

honoria

2004-03-04 01:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

I agree with you on this ep and Fred. I loved her until suddenly EVERYONE on the show loooooved Saint Fred. Then I couldn't stand her.

I wish I had a seekrit download benefactrix. VCR was wonky, so I had to watch it while working on my ms. I think i missed stuff.

grr. argh.

mpoetess

2004-03-05 05:47 am (UTC) (Link)

I still haven't gotten to see it properly on tv - it won't air til Saturday here. But at least I got the tiny-but-very-high-quality version to watch.

I'd upload it myself, but my own webspace won't stand the bandwidth.

soundingsea

2004-03-04 07:37 pm (UTC) (Link)

It took me a second viewing to see that Angel decided to stay on the bridge with Spike. I think he did decide to go, then turned and was grounded by Spike not following him.

I think the significance of "Home" is great. I'm a spoilerphobe, so I only skimmed your spec, but if they don't go for the massive reveal of what Angel's been hiding all season I'll be really surprised.

mpoetess

2004-03-05 05:55 am (UTC) (Link)

Yeah, I think you're right about Angel and Spike. (Though since either of them could have done it, seeing as they're both 'champions' [hack spit remove word from dictionary] it'd be nice to see Angel not take the whole damn burden of the decision on himself, when describing it to Wes. Granted, it's a very Angel thing to do.)

astarte99

2004-03-04 08:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

Episode whose events, if Angel's wish for Connor changed the world in significant ways, and not just people's memories, might actually reverse or at least alter everything that's happened this season, including Fred's death, if its events literally are undone? Home.

I have been holding firm more or less to this theory since the season started. It's just interesting to think about how things would be if everyone remembered all things that transpired in the in-between. How would Gunn handle suddenly being the muscle again, coupled with knowing what his pursuit of "specialness" got him? Would Angel have tried to lead Lawson on a path to redemption if he was not already broken and empty b/c of the hole in him? Things like this have made playing the hypothetic spec game lots of fun all season, especially as things have unfolded. Or maybe I am just the world's biggest geek. (could be)



mpoetess

2004-03-05 05:43 am (UTC) (Link)

Of course the other end of that seesaw is, if what was changed was not just memory but reality, then if everything Angel did post-Connor-wipe is either undone or changed, did he get the amulet? Did he go to Sunnydale? If he was grieving over Connor, did he let Spike take the amulet, or did Angel burn up in his place? If Lilah never gave him the amulet at all, is the earth overrun with ubervamps?

astarte99

2004-03-05 06:05 am (UTC) (Link)

Definitely. And since it is canon that it was a reality shift, it looks like it might have to be Angel chosing between millions dying and fixing his mistakes which cost him his family. Which just spirals off into all kinds of other crazy spec like what would the SP/PTB do? Was this, then, *the* apocalypse?

chicken_cem

2004-03-04 09:04 pm (UTC) (Link)

Your theory is really good, and if Joss has any true genius left in him, he will read your review (!!) and go, 'oh yeah, I already thought of that!"

But seriously, your mind works in brilliant ways.

Also, your sentence structure made me keep waiting for the Visa thing ...

Episode whose events did blah, Home.

i.e.

[Noun subject] whose [noun objects] did [verb], [clincher].
[Noun subject] whose [noun objects] did [verb], [clincher].
[Noun subject] whose [noun objects] did [verb], [clincher].

[Noun subject] whose [noun objects] did [verb], PRICELESS.

So what is to be the priceless event/thing for AtS, in this analogy??

Were you keeping it from us? The punchline, the be all end all, the boom, the big finish, the 'Joss loves the pain'?

Heh heh.

mpoetess

2004-03-05 05:45 am (UTC) (Link)

Snork. Chance to metaphorically bitchslap everybody who said this season has no diretcion and Joss has no plan and doesn't know what he's doing? Priceless."

chicken_cem

2004-03-05 07:24 am (UTC) (Link)

Oh, see? I knew you were holding that line back! Ha! I mean ... Ha!