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Angel 5.22 spoilers, duh.


Geek cred for cut-tag understanding... ;-)

Randomness:


  • That was good stuff.

  • Thank God for spoiler-whoredom.

  • "No more Buffyverse" hasn't hit me yet. Hell, it won't hit me, because I am the pollyest of pollyannas when it comes to the hope of further interaction with the characters in some way, be it movie, spinoff, locking Joss in a closet and making him tell me slashy bedtime stories on pain of taking away his bucket

  • Wes' death hasn't hit me as hard as it could because

    a) I know there *was* going to be a Season 6, so he wouldn't have died permanently at the end of this season, if not for the WB, because there was no way they were dumping Alexis. It puts his death into a hazy limbo state for me, where denial of its permanence doesn't even feel like denial.

    b) Illyria's reaction hit me harder (as several deaths in the Buffyverse have done, like Angel and Cordy's reactions to Doyle, Willow's reaction to Tara, everyone's to Joyce)

    c) The minor annoyance of Wes' last thoughts being of Fred undercut my personal reactions to losing him a little bit, though I did appreciate his half of the scene on an artistic level. Meaning it was well staged and well acted and Wes = the pretty, and I love him.

  • I thought I wasn't going to buy Lindsey's death; seemed too random in summary. In practice? Oh god, pretty/ha/ouch/ohyeah/soright. I'm not happy with Lindsey's thing about coming back to get power, etc., given the way he left, but they sold me on how much it was All. About. Angel. to the point where the rest is window-dressing that I can write off as Lindsey's sad little world-o-denial.

  • Connor! Anne!

  • Angel/Lindsey? "I'd be more comfortable..." Angel's fight with Hamilton? "Say kill Spike and we may have to kiss?" Gayest. Episode. Ever. Hamilton was only sleeping with Harmony for the info. Seriously. Dude.

  • I was sad that Harmony couldn't have been the one vamp to show that it's possible for them to not only change, but change enough (soulless Spike changed, but not enough to be accepted/trustworthy without the soul), but at the same time satisfied that yes, betrayal is in character for her. She's not actually evil. She sucks at evil, truly -- she's just cheerfully amoral. It has a certain attraction.

  • They do *not* die after the credits roll. I mean, no, seriously, Pollyanna aside, virtual seasons aside, this was not Thelma and Louise. It was left open-ended on *purpose*.

  • I love Spike.

  • The previous may have come as a shock to some of you, I know...

  • Effulgent! Can I deny you three times?

  • Seabreeze count: 3

  • Poor bubeleh Lorne.

  • For that "Thank you for five years of good times" spot afterwards? Fuck you, WB. Sideways. With vinegar-flavoured-lube. Fuck you and your toaster and everyone who *looks* like your toaster. I love syphillis more than you.

  • There is going to be a Season 6, goddammit. (More than one, I'm sure, but this one has definitely taken on new concreteness to me as it does start to hit home - that the only Jossverse premieres next fall will be the ones we make ourselves.)


I was thinking morelike...

jillapet

2004-05-19 10:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

fuck the WB with a hand grenade. With the pin pulled. With vinegar lube. And a machete. And their toasters, juicers, and waffle irons.

I really don't think the finality will hit until next fall, when we DON'T have a S6 premiere. Hopefully by then we will be well immersed in the Virtual Season, and the sorrow will be less.

Re: I was thinking morelike...

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:54 am (UTC) (Link)

And their toasters, juicers, and waffle irons.


Don't forget the bagel slicers.

snoopypez

2004-05-19 10:44 pm (UTC) (Link)

Your Pollyanna-ness seriously, truely makes me happy. If someone else can hope for the best, I don't feel stupid doing so. :P

..I can't comment on Wes. :( It's too painful.

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:53 am (UTC) (Link)

I am the original "They could have survived! We didn't SEE them die! Fuck you! I believe in sequels!" girl. ;-)

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Re: You gave them LUBE?!?!?

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:52 am (UTC) (Link)

Well, yeah. but it was the extra-sting-y kind.

grifyn

2004-05-19 10:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

For that "Thank you for five years of good times" spot afterwards? Fuck you, WB. Sideways. With vinegar-flavoured-lube. Fuck you and your toaster and everyone who *looks* like your toaster. I love syphillis more than you.

::applauds::

° <-- the nervous sphincter of the WB.

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:51 am (UTC) (Link)

Heee!

wackinessensues

2004-05-19 10:56 pm (UTC) (Link)

Um, yeah?

I've already called the local WB affiliate and emailed them to let them know that at 9:57pm we went around to every television in the house and manually removed the WB from our channel line-up so we don't even have to accidentally brush over their channel ever ever again.

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:51 am (UTC) (Link)

I'm not quite at that level of ... ok, I'm at that level of hatred, but I'm not at that level of letting go, as I can't guarantee there won't be some new show I'll love that the WB can screw me over on too...

wackinessensues

2004-05-20 03:34 pm (UTC) (Link)

Personally I am unwilling to give them the chance, so yeah, no more for us, ever. We have washed our hands of the WB.

jainieg

2004-05-19 11:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

Fuck you, WB. Sideways. With vinegar-flavoured-lube. Fuck you and your toaster and everyone who *looks* like your toaster. I love syphillis more than you.

You know that has all the makings of a lewd cheerleading chant, like George Carlin's 'lizard shit' one. I like it!

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:49 am (UTC) (Link)

I think it may be too mild, though...

raveninthewind

2004-05-19 11:36 pm (UTC) (Link)

a) I know there *was* going to be a Season 6, so he wouldn't have died permanently at the end of this season, if not for the WB, because there was no way they were dumping Alexis.

I heard that Gunn was originally supposed to be the one to die, but they changed it.

BTW, butterfly had a good post on the finale, much more analytical than anything I could write.

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:48 am (UTC) (Link)

I heard that Gunn was originally supposed to be the one to die, but they changed it.


The script up to just a week or so ago had them both dying; Gunn surviving was a recent change. But it's fair to speculate that if there'd been a S6, Wes would have either not been on the dying menu at all (for this season at least) or he'd have been brought back somehow; Alexis is one of their best resources, and they know it.

jainieg

2004-05-19 11:39 pm (UTC) (Link)

There is going to be a Season 6, goddammit. (More than one, I'm sure, but this one has definitely taken on new concreteness to me as it does start to hit home - that the only Jossverse premieres next fall will be the ones we make ourselves.)

There are two virtual season projects getting off the ground at the moment and I'm kinda hard-pressed to decide which one I should go with. I'm just as not-ready as the next chick to let go of my show, so I'd love to help with graphics, maybe some new credits or something. I'm thinking, though, that No Limits would be my best bet. Hmm.

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:44 am (UTC) (Link)

I'm working on new credits for No Limits (though TBQ might welcome more than one set), but I think all kinds of viddery stuff would be received happily (promo spots, .... brain is blanking, but I know there have to be other things too) and the more the merrier with graphics.

Hell, the more the merrier with virtual seasons, too. Why pick just one?

ide_cyan

2004-05-20 12:54 am (UTC) (Link)

Geek cred for cut-tag understanding... ;-)

Don't go falling off a radiotelescope now.

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:41 am (UTC) (Link)

*gives you much geek cred*

Even my roomie, who's as much an oldtime whogeek as I am, had to be prompted through remembering the source.

redbrickrose

2004-05-20 03:12 am (UTC) (Link)

They do *not* die after the credits roll. I mean, no, seriously, Pollyanna aside, virtual seasons aside, this was not Thelma and Louise. It was left open-ended on *purpose*.

Thank you. Now, I need someone to tell me this on a daily basis for the next couple of months.

That was good stuff.
Yes, yes it was. I'm still crying.

Fuck the WB.

mpoetess

2004-05-20 09:45 am (UTC) (Link)

Thank you. Now, I need someone to tell me this on a daily basis for the next couple of months.

They do *not* die after the credits roll. I mean, no, seriously, Pollyanna aside, virtual seasons aside, this was not Thelma and Louise. It was left open-ended on *purpose*.

*g*

trepkos

2004-05-21 07:36 am (UTC) (Link)

They don't die unless you see them die - on no they don't.
See, Spike lives on - proof above!