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Viddish: Noting the number of recent questions about DVD-ripping and getting that source into Premiere, I have to say - am I just lucky, or doing something horrible to my vids that I don't know about? I rip with #1 DVD Ripper, straight to DivX 5. Open in VDub to clip. Compress the clips to DivX 4 low motion (4 has consistently given me smaller files in VDub than 5, for some reason) and open those in Premiere. And it's fine. I mean Premiere crashes frequently just because it's Premiere, but it doesn't choke on the files. Not like it *used* to do on uncompressed mpegs. Perhaps my copy of Premiere thinks it's Opposite Day?

Iconic: I know the tiny text on the latest icon trend is decorative, and isn't meant to be read. I'm not dense. That is in fact why the icons aren't to my taste, despite the fact that yes, they are artistically pretty. The human brain, once taught to read, is geared to try to read, especially if you're a words-oriented person first, and a picture-person second. If a designer uses something as a decoration that looks like words (because it is words, just so small that only the designer knows what they are), I'm going to squint to try to read them. Instinctively. If every third person on my friendslist has a tiny-text icon, I'm going to squint so much that I get a headache. Also, the trend of having a few words readable and the rest of a presumably familiar (to the writer) phrase as decoration, tends to make me feel culturally deficient, as I never know the song lyrics that are being referenced. They might mean something to me anyway if I could read the whole line, but in general I'm left with a picture of Buffy and Angel that says "LOVE...mummblemumble" or Giles that says "The Oceans..muttermutter etc." and though it's a pretty picture, it's emotionally unfulfilling. So, count me not among the "what's up with that?" people, because I know what's up with that. It just doesn't appeal to me, and I hope the popularity of the technique fades eventually, because it's a frustrating visual experience.

ETA - ha. I wrote this without knowing that people were wanking over someone having said the exact same thing. I stand by it. I am not saying people shouldn't design icons to their own taste, and I'm not saying people shouldn't use icons that reflect their own taste. I'm not even saying that many of these icons aren't pretty, because they are. I'm just mentioning why the style doesn't appeal to me.

Hairy: I am now a randomly-streaked pseudo blonde. For about 24 hours, until I re-red my hair. The concept being that pre-streaking it with blonde will end up as more than one shade of red in the final results. Looks very funky and bad now, though, mixed with my 2-inch long muddy-brown roots, and my rather faded copper that's looking a bit wood-colored these days.


2004-07-14 02:15 pm (UTC) (Link)

What you said about icons.


2004-07-14 03:10 pm (UTC) (Link)

Like seventies-retro clothes, it'll pass. Not entirely, but enough so that they'll only show up every once in a while, and people everywhere will stop bitching about them, pro or con. *g*


2004-07-14 02:17 pm (UTC) (Link)

I am with you on the icons because I can't NOT read something, and I have insatiable curiousity and I have to click on cut tags and I have to squint at icons and I want to KNOW!

And when I can't know I have to flail instead.


2004-07-14 02:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

Hah, yes -- quickest way to get me to click on your cut-tag? Label it "TMI"


2004-07-14 02:22 pm (UTC) (Link)

YES to the icons. Holy cow, they make me insane. I, too, hope the trend dies quickly.


2004-07-14 02:31 pm (UTC) (Link)

Some of them are very pretty, and I see the intended resemblence to CD covers, or movie posters, etc. But I'm a word person. I tend to react to icons as I do to vids - a mixing of two artforms. When one of those artforms gets shortchanged in the presentation, my brain stares at it and blitzes.

Hmm - -it's a lot like listening to anime music (my roomie plays much of it) that throws in random English phrases. I'm fine for hearing music in Japanese, and knowing I'm not supposed to understand the words. But hearing random English phrases thrown in (which are presumably popular enough in Japan that they're used as slang or understood by the listening public) drives me nuts. Granted with that, I know that I'm not the intended audience - the Japanese viewer is, and they'll react well to it.


2004-07-14 02:31 pm (UTC) (Link)

If I am counting correctly, you Windows people have three steps in ripping to vid, three pieces of software, #1 DVD Ripper, VDub, Premiere.

I also on the Mac have three steps: OSeX for ripping, DVDxDV for clipping, then import to Movie editor of choice (iMove, Premiere, Final Cut, whichever).

I swear someone once told me it was 'too complicated' on a Mac with 'too many steps', but I just swear it is the same number of steps. Anyway, rant is over, and not directed at you. Just an observation. I wish I could remember who said that.

As for the icon thing -- I am absolutely sure that *some* people use the small text because they don't know any better, or because it looks OK in their own special browser but not anyone else's, or because they were at 300% viewing size in Photoshop when they made it, or whatever.

I however laughed at your description -- "The Oceans ... muttermutter". HAHA.


2004-07-14 02:57 pm (UTC) (Link)

I love you. The last time I tried to get DVD ripping software for my mac, it was a horribly convoluted mess.

OSeX is delightful. It's easy and lovely and wheee!

And I will never admit to ripping Dukes of Hazzard. Nope. But I am bummed because NOW I have to get an external hard drive to store all the things I'm going to have ripped for songvids....

Evil wench. ;-)


2004-07-14 03:04 pm (UTC) (Link)

Now you know why I have one!


2004-07-14 05:43 pm (UTC) (Link)

Yeah, I'm all evil and stuff.

If I were to write a "Help" document for aspiring Mac vidders, where would be a good place to post/host it where lots of Mac fangirl vidders would see it? Or are we just scattered hither and thither?

Now that you've learned the joys of OSeX, you should know that DVDxDV is shareware, and prints a 'demo' message or something across the rip if you haven't paid. It's cheap, $25 or so, and if you pay for it, the annoying message goes away.


2004-07-14 06:31 pm (UTC) (Link)

As far as I know we are Hither and Thither.

But it sounds like a good LJ community need. ;-)


2004-07-14 03:04 pm (UTC) (Link)

Well, I use 3 steps. Others apparently use more, or different, steps, even in Windows. They may be coming out with better quality video in their vids - I'm not sure.


2004-07-14 05:51 pm (UTC) (Link)

I'm not sure, either -- it's all a grey area.

The one thing I don't know how to do on my Mac (and I may need a Windows machine to do it) is how to convert my Quicktime vids into Windows Media Player format. I've searched and searched and have not found any tool, open source or not, that does this.

I did finally find a crappy little OS 9 thingy to convert from Quicktime to RealPlayer, but I hate it because, ew, OS 9. If only there were an OS X version.


2004-07-14 06:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

But *why* would you want to convert them to WMV? Why not just leave them as .mov? (QT will save them as a "web version" which is usually about 3-5MB, a nice downloadable size). The QT Pro ($25 flat fee) will also convert to .avi and a few other things I haven't looked at recently.


2004-07-14 07:58 pm (UTC) (Link)

Yes, I did in fact buy QT Pro, and I love it.

I hate WMV, too, and in fact hate all Microsoft products. However, I was just thinking that some other fans might want a WMV (because there are just so many Windows users out there who for some reason like WMVs).

I suppose I don't REALLY need to please everyone.

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2004-07-15 06:28 am (UTC) (Link)

(I'm not willing to give up computer space for VDub)

? VirtualDub, the whole package, is less than 1 megabyte in size.

Did you mean the #1 DVD ripper program? (Which is actually payware, I'm sure that's why some folks don't use it.)

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2004-07-14 02:44 pm (UTC) (Link)

They might mean something to me anyway if I could read the whole line, but in general I'm left with a picture of Buffy and Angel that says "LOVE...mummblemumble" or Giles that says "The Oceans..muttermutter etc." and though it's a pretty picture, it's emotionally unfulfilling.

Bwah! Yes, I so agree about the icons. Pretty? Many of them. Annoying because I can't read the words? All of them.


2004-07-14 03:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

I have no problem with text made way too *big* used as decoration, because it doesn't entice me to try to read it. It just looks like loops and squiggles and artsy things. But when it's smaller than normal, it still has the shape of words, and my eye is tricked into wanting to know what they say. Not, however, to the point of asking teh artist, because if you have to *ask* the artist what a piece of art says... I dunno. Deems counterintuitive to me.


2004-07-14 03:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

Icons - Yes. What you just said.

Hair - you have to take pictures! I want to see the final product! (is a dying-hair junky since dying my own just doesn't happen much)


2004-07-14 03:06 pm (UTC) (Link)

It's truly awful at the moment. Might take a picture just for fun.

I would have done everything in one fell swoop - streaked, then dyed, but I was dithering about whether I wanted to spend that much money right then, and then conveniently I checked the dye section and they didn't have my color in stock!


2004-07-14 03:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

Vidding: What you are doing sounds just fine. Premiere seems to act differently with almost everyone; I've heard people say that their copy loves mpegs but crashes with avis, and others say it does the exact opposite. It can depend on your version of Premiere, your project settings, the file codecs, your operating system, blah blah blah. It's just an awfully fickle little piece of software. My personal advice to everyone is to find a ripping method that works with their computer and their version of Premiere, and then DON'T CHANGE IT EVER. Hah.

Icons: Ditto, to everything. Tiny text doesn't appeal to me either. And - people are wanking over this? Again? wha?

Hair: Oooh, streaks! That's a great idea to lighten some of it so that you get various colors of red later. So, will you be posting pictures? :)


2004-07-14 03:58 pm (UTC) (Link)

My personal advice to everyone is to find a ripping method that works with their computer and their version of Premiere, and then DON'T CHANGE IT EVER. Hah.

Ironically, I'm about to change my version of Premiere. I think. Snerk.

I might post pictures. Of my hair, at least. I'll just have to get the cats to jump up and take picturs of the top of my head so you can't see my face. *g*

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2004-07-15 06:31 am (UTC) (Link)


I've almost never used silkscreen because it's too *big* when I want a bitmap-sized font. And looks all puffy and comic-y.


2004-07-14 08:51 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh me too, I go nuts trying to read tiny text. The worst is when it's almost legible but not quite. It's maddening to my little pea brain!


2004-07-15 06:36 am (UTC) (Link)

It doesn't help with me that I have a co-worker who's been here for 30 years and has atrocious handwriting, so my eyes are trained to try to make out *his* scrawl. *g*

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2004-07-16 12:24 pm (UTC) (Link)

I make most of my own icons, so for me it's not an issue of using the tinytext ones or not. I just get weary and eyestrained at seeing them over and over on buffy_icons et al.