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omg [self-induced] stress


In other nonsurprising news, crackass new posting interface doesn't fit in the window in Netscape either. Or IE.

(And when I say doesn't fit in the window, I don't mean that the whole *page* is wider than my screen; I can deal with that. No, the text-input box for typing is, by itself, wider than my screen. [screenshot]. And the first person who tells me my problems will be solved if I switch to the XColibur layout (the new default LJ layout, what you see on comments pages if you're not logged in) gets to die slowly of carpal tunnel syndrome from those sodding 90-degree-angles you have to make when hovering your mouse to get the menu options to popup.)

pyleanelf

2004-09-23 04:20 pm (UTC) (Link)

*despises new LJ layout too*

*waves hello* :)

But http://www.livejournal.com/portal still works, a link I got from your journal I think.

Even my insane computer doesn't mess up the page like it is in that screenshot though. Ughh. I miss old style LJ.

zortified

2004-09-23 04:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

LJ has been bought by the post office and they are trying to get us offline and back to writing letters on paper.

That's my theory - at least the version which does not involve aliens.

chicken_cem

2004-09-23 05:50 pm (UTC) (Link)

Hey, at least the comment preview page still looks like the old interface, yay.

I complained on lj_maintenance about this, but I don't think any of the LJ developers noticed. Where would be a better forum in which to complain? Because, grrrr.

highlander_ii

2004-09-23 05:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh - don't switch to the default either - it doesn't always work - esp if you don't max your windows - actually, even if you do -- it's worse in some versions of IE --

On my PC at work - it's like the whole part that is the LJ updatey window is all shifted into the menu bar and stuff - like a div layer that isn't aligned right - it's just all fucked up...

methinks 'tis too much javascript and not enough simple stuff to make the windows play nice with each other...

*grrrr* @ the new LJ stuff

flaming_muse

2004-09-23 06:09 pm (UTC) (Link)

*stares at screenshot*

That's... that's... unacceptable.

journalkitten

2004-09-24 06:09 am (UTC) (Link)

*pets you*

Want some pocki?

I'm Sorry. Really, Really Sorry!

sarabi

2004-09-24 08:04 am (UTC) (Link)

(The following is an exact copy of a response to maeyan's post. Please forgive me if you've been subjected to both. But I'm late. And lazy. Thank you.)


I really am. But I'm happy about the new update screen.

For the first time in my experince I found something that works fine with Mozilla and doesn't work for IE! That's so extrememly rare. It's nice to not be the one getting the short end.

One a less selfish note, they should definitely be desinging the site so that it doesn't matter *what* browser you're using. It should work right.

However, I did find this http://www.livejournal.com/support/ Part of which says:

A new version of the Update Journal page has been added to the site. Developers are aware that some users are having difficulty using this page; they are working to fix it as soon as possible. In the meantime, you may wish to use a downloaded client to update your journal. There is no need to open a support request about this problem.

So at least they are aware and are working on it.

Re: I'm Sorry. Really, Really Sorry!

mpoetess

2004-09-24 08:10 am (UTC) (Link)

*cough* - see previous post where I say I'm *using* Mozilla. Got nothing to do with which browser you use; it doesn't work in any of them. The screencap in ths post was taken using Netscape.

It has to do with your screen resolution. You and J have huge screens and have your reso set to some ungodly number by some ungodly number, so you're having no problems with the new page. You wouldn't have problems in IE either.

Nice to know LJ is aware of it. I love the "some users" issue, though, given it's anybody with an 800x600 resolution -- which is still the webdesign standard. Also the "Teehee, just download a client!" Teehee, just bite me, since most people who use the damn web interface in the first place are using it because they're at a PC that isn't heirs, and they *can't* download a client. (I hate the clients myself, but the majority of web-interface users are using it because if the 'update anywhere' ability, one would assume.)

Re: I'm Sorry. Really, Really Sorry!

mpoetess

2004-09-24 08:12 am (UTC) (Link)

Er, obviously "Just bite me" was directed at LJ, not you. Though you are always welcome to bite me. :D

Re: I'm Sorry. Really, Really Sorry!

sarabi

2004-09-24 08:32 am (UTC) (Link)

Ah, I missed that part. Sorry, again.

I guess it's because I'm surrounded by geeks, but I didn't know that 800x600 was still standard. I'm not sure what mine's at, but I know it's more than 800x600 and Jamie and most everybody bitches that it's too low. Oh well. I'm out of touch again.

While I agree that the download option isn't always viable, at least they didn't just say "suck a needle" and leave you hanging, right? Maybe?

OK, I'm not getting anywhere with this. I go back to corner now. Bye-bye.

P.S. I'll file the "Bite Me" thing for future reference. :-)

Re: I'm Sorry. Really, Really Sorry!

mpoetess

2004-09-24 08:43 am (UTC) (Link)

800 x 600 isn't really standard anymore for *users* -- lots more people have larger screens and resolutions. But it's still supposed to be the standard for webdesigners to shoot for, is what I mean.

If you're a business website designer and you create a page that won't fit on the screen in 800x600 reso, you're losing money, because there's still enough 800x600 people out there -- especially in the library, school, non-computer-based business world -- who will have trouble using your site, and think it's ugly because they can't see all of it at once.

I'm annoyed at LJ mostly because they do this *constantly* (make big changes without informing users in advance), and never seem to learn from the past. LJ has a habit of making broad sweeping changes that huge amounts of people hate and have problems with, then responding only after much prompting with "Oh. We thought that would be fine. Guess we'll see about doing something, just chill... ho hum... hey why are all you people complaining that our communications skills suck? Leave us alone!" Like even now, you can find a message on the support page, but they haven't made an announcement on any of the update communities that this issue is going on, to let subscribers know in general to relax. Each individual user has to get annoyed enough to start to file a tech support request, before they find out that anything's being done.