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Flotsam, Jetsam, Seeing Dead People

1. I have Scrubs dvds. They are on my front porch waiting for me. This is good, because I have watched all of Tru Calling and Dead Like Me's first seasons, and I'm not ready to watch Dead Zone S1 again yet, since I'm still recovering from watching it all the way through on VHS in the space of two days. Two years ago. Er, yes, so I'm on a dvd kick, did I mention that? No actual creative products are coming out of my fingertips nor have they been for months; I'm apparently completely set on intake mode.

2. I tried very hard to listen to For What I Need, but I had to stop it after about five lines. Dear JM -- no. Just... no.

3. I am going to see Serenity next weekend! With maeyan! *cough* Right, I mentioned that. And then we are going to St. Louis to see sarabi and kjwagner and respective spouses. And kitties. And rodentia. And children of the two-legged variety.

4. For no other reason than that I like them (and see first paragraph re: entertainment binge), rec me ghost movies, please? [ETA: English language or dubbed; subtitles give me headaches.] Scary or creepy kind, not comedy/family. Though the ghost (s) doesn't have to be evil; The Lady In White for example is a great creepy movie where the ghosts themselves are benign, if disconcerting, and the danger comes from the living. What else - I don't mind gore but I'm not enamoured of it; given the choice I'd rather not watch body parts being lopped off. I tend to prefer female ghosts to male, but will take either.

Ghost films I've already seen:

Ghost Story, The Others, The Changeling, The Lady In White, Woman In Black (hee), Blair Witch, a zillion variations on The Turn of the Screw, Let's Scare Jessica To Death, The Shining, Ghost Ship, Poltergeist (all of them), 6th Sense, House on Haunted Hill (the modern version), The Haunting (both versions), The Ring, The Grudge (creeped out enough by the American versions, no desire to see the originals), Sleepy Hollow, most of the Amityville films, She Waits, The Nesting, Candyman 1 & 2, all of the Nightmare on Elm St. films (though I liked following the storyline on those, in general I am not a fan of ghost stories that are really slasher movies only the slasher happens to be dead, so not into Halloween or Friday the 13th and their like. Despite having seen many of them.) Most of the Hellraiser movies, which aren't really ghost films per se. [ETA: Haunted, The Frighteners, Watcher In the Woods, Something Wicked This Way Comes] And... more that I probably won't think of until someone recommends it.

Possessed or evil (supernaturally, not just psychotic) children also work, though there I tend to really favor girls over boys. (I've seen Exorcist and the Omen and The Other and Godsend. The End.)

Bonus points for at least some of the main characters actually making it safely out of the situation.


2005-05-21 12:23 am (UTC) (Link)

I tried very hard to listen to For What I Need, but I had to stop it after about five lines. Dear JM -- no. Just... no.

Yes. Clearly I am immune to whatever level of pheromones he puts out to wow audiences as he seemingly does at his shows. I was front row center at the DragonCon show and, well . . . no.

He's so terribly nice in person that I hate that he's so dreadfully bad at singing and songwriting when he obviously really loves doing it.


2005-05-21 12:26 am (UTC) (Link)

He has a nice voice; if he'd sing songs that a) he didn't write and b) are in his really limited range, I'd be a happy camper.


2005-05-21 12:39 am (UTC) (Link)

The Frightening is a David Decoteau film, and should therefore be watched on general slashy principles. (Pretty young men wandering around in their underwear. Mmmm.) It's kind of a slasher movie, except it isn't -- I don't like slasher movies either, but I was OK with this. Lots of people die, but you have to get to the end of the film to find out whether or not this was a bad thing. The question isn't so much whether any of the main characters make it out OK as whether they made it in OK in the first place.

The Bride With White Hair is supposed to be very good, but I've never actually watched it. la_marquise_de could probably recommend you tons more Hong Kong ghost stories if you wanted.


2005-05-21 12:55 am (UTC) (Link)

Thanks! The Frightening looks interesting -- *smacks spoileriffic reviewer at imdb, but I might well check it out anyway*

Re Hong Kong ghost films, I should probably have specified English-language only, because I can't watch subtitled things for very long - subtitles give me headaches. (Also I really really really hate martial arts movies, even (or possibly especially) the kind with mystical subplots and flying people. Hate action in general, unless it's also high comedy.)

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2005-05-21 12:46 am (UTC) (Link)

Oooo... Watcher in the Woods was good, though the book was also good but quite a bit different and I tend to mix them together in my head without realizing it. Also... oh damn. Not Lady in White, but it has a girl ghost and... something about her dolls and... dammit, what is that movie?!?


(Also, there is always Something Wicked This Way Comes which is probably on your "I remember that now!" list :D And in not-quite-ghost-story-but-kind land, there is Brainstorm.)


2005-05-21 01:00 am (UTC) (Link)

Hee. They're all on my list.

I've seen and read WitW, and I think you're thinking of The Ghost Belonged To Me, re the girl ghost w/doll(s)? Based on the Richard Peck book? And yes, have seen Something Wicked. Possibly read it as well; I've read so many of Bradbury's short stories that I can't remember if I actually read that one or not.

This Brainstorm? I haven't seen it, and it looks really interesting.

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2005-05-21 12:50 am (UTC) (Link)

I didn't see The Uninvited,an old movie, on your list. I thought it very good.

And Jacob's Ladder, very scary.


2005-05-21 01:09 am (UTC) (Link)

I've heard of The Uninvited, but haven't seen it -- yay! *adds to watch list(

Jacob's Ladder is a possible, though I've avoided it up til now -- I'm deeply spoiled for it, and iirc the suspense is fairly based on the main twist.



2005-05-21 02:24 am (UTC) (Link)

I tried very hard to listen to For What I Need, but I had to stop it after about five lines. Dear JM -- no. Just... no.

I love Ghost of the Robot. I have the CD in my car and listen to it at least once a week (yes, seriously) And I listened to For What I Need thanks to your link. Umm....James has been smoking the bad crack again. That's just so wrong, so very wrong. He just needs to stand there and be pretty and stop trying to write his own lyrics.

Re: JM


2005-05-21 04:19 am (UTC) (Link)

Or at least get a beta reader who can tell him "No, hon, you don't want to sound like a 15 year old boy who wrote this song while on a contact high from sitting in the back of the detention classroom for too long."


2005-05-21 08:22 am (UTC) (Link)

The Frighteners
Directed by Peter Jackson, starring Michael J Fox. I like it but many don't. As one reviewer put it "It's a great Sunday afternoon movie. It doesn't lag for a moment. It even has the incredible grace of using Blue Oyster Cult's "Don't Fear the Reaper" as the closing music. It has everything... but it also has Michael J. Fox"


2005-05-22 12:16 am (UTC) (Link)

I loved the Frighteners - even MJF. That's another one I forgot to put on my list of 'sen it' movies!


2005-05-21 02:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

What Lies Beneath, Harrison Ford and Michelle Pfeiffer. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned. Ghost involved, although I didn't find it particularly creepy, but then again neither The Ring nor The Grudge creeped me out much.


2005-05-22 12:18 am (UTC) (Link)

It's another one I'm thoroughly spoiled for; completely my own fault, as I went looking for summaries then read detailed ones that I knew would be so detailed as to give away the seekrit plot points. So it's sort of on my backup list of movies to see when I just want to see the acting and creep-out moments but don't actually need the suspense.


2005-05-21 07:05 pm (UTC) (Link)

I'll second slanted_truths's plug for What Lies Beneath, and I'll add Haunted (the 1995 Lewis Gilbert movie, starring Aidan Quinn and Kate Beckinsale) and The Devil's Backbone (it's in Spanish, but it's a fabulous movie and the images pretty much tell the story, so you can probably get away with ignoring the subtitles a lot of the time). And I don't think it's been released in the States, but the British TV movie The Stone Tape is fantastic.

Not quite as strongly recommended, but still interesting and visually striking, are Bones (with Snoop Dogg!) and an obscure little flick called The Ugly, which has a ghostly element to it. And for some reason I think of Neil Jordan's In Dreams as being a kind of ghost or possession story, although that's more to do with the storytelling style than the actual plot...


2005-05-21 07:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh oh oh! I can't believe I forgot Stir of Echoes! It even has Kevin Bacon in it...

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2005-05-21 08:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

There's a good reason "How bad could it be?" is usually a rhetorical question.

And I second "The Frighteners" and "Stir of Echoes" (the latter of which had the very bad luck to come out around the same time as "The Sixth Sense" but which is a good film on its own. And it has a shirtless and sweaty Kevin Bacon.)

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2005-05-22 12:22 am (UTC) (Link)

Stir of Echoes gets the 'most-recced' vote, so it's probably the first one I'll look for!

Frighteners I've seen, and liked, and forgot to put down on my list.


2005-05-21 10:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

I third "Stir of Echoes" - far superior to "The Sixth Sense" in my opinion. Other ghost movie recs:

"Ju-On" - the Japanese version of "The Grudge" which, as usual, is better than the American remake. You said you wouldn't see it, but I'd give it a shot if I were you!

"Carnival of Souls" - very eerie film from 1962...the organ music will creep you out. I hear they may be remaking this.


2005-05-22 12:31 am (UTC) (Link)

Stir of Echoes is one of the ones I'm definitely looking for when I hit the video shop!

I fully believe Ju-On is better than the Grudge -- I'm actually avoiding it because I don't want to be further creeped out by the visual images! I know the basic mystery now, so watching another version of it would just be torturing myself. :D

Carnival of Souls is a possibility -- mindfuck "are they crazy or not" movies tend to leave me disappointed because I'd rather the tangibly supernatural than the crazy or ending in ambiguity. Not a surrealism fan. But the reviews say it's got a lot of very creepy scenes, which I'm kind of in the mood for.


2005-05-22 12:31 am (UTC) (Link)

Ghost or possession movies, right? Well, there's Prince of Darkness, which kind of does both, Quatermass and the Pit, which is old-style British horror, and sci-fi on the surface, but it really is a ghost story.... hmm.... Audrey Rose, which is nominally about reincarnation, but is essentially a ghost/possession story (with young Anthony Hopkins). The upcoming Dark Water (based on a Japanese original, which I've seen, and is good and nail-biting, from the same author as The Ring) is definitely a ghost story, and Session 9 features a ghostly mental insitution (!).


2005-05-22 12:46 am (UTC) (Link)

Oh, and now that I started thinking about sci-fi horror... Event Horizon, which a lot of people hate but I love, with Sam Neil and Lawrence Fishburne, and the woman who plays Julia on Nip/Tuck, and is essentially a haunted house in space, Planet of the Vampires, a Mario Bava-directed extravaganza of creepy technicolor moodiness, and, in way, Forbidden Planet, which feels like a ghost movie for the most of it, with the deserted planet with only the two survivors, the ancient leftover technology, and the ship full of fresh-faced scientists come to investigate...

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scary children


2005-05-23 06:50 pm (UTC) (Link)

Village of the Damned is my favoritest. There is also Children of the Corn. And The Good Son.

Re: scary children


2005-05-23 07:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oddly, considering how classic it is, I've never seen Village of the Damned! *adds to list*

CotC on the other hand, is too creepy for me; I've read the original short story it's based on, and seen bits and pieces of the movie at times, and the cornfield imagery always freaks me out too much.

The Good Son is more along the lines of sociopathic kids, a la Bad Seed, iirc -- it's one that I'll end up watching at some point, but at the moment I'm really in the mood for supernatural stories.

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